tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post4841125819970426559..comments2024-03-27T09:58:35.443-07:00Comments on Reading and Writing: Edits and NaNoWriMoUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-34690108483551153252011-10-23T12:28:46.302-07:002011-10-23T12:28:46.302-07:00Hi Paula - okay, I think I'm convinced now! Ev...Hi Paula - okay, I think I'm convinced now! Even if I can't turn off my internal editor, it will give me a much needed kick up the bahookey!<br /><br />Hello K.C - I absolutely see what you mean about taking time and thinking about your novel. I guess this again shows how important it is to know what kind of writer each of us is. I'm a terrible procrastinator and this is the main reason I'm even thinking about NaNo!Rosemary Gemmellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311840205603508422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-48502421217283577652011-10-23T09:07:04.349-07:002011-10-23T09:07:04.349-07:00I considered taking part a few years ago, but I de...I considered taking part a few years ago, but I decided not to in the end and I'm glad about that. When it comes down to it, I don't want to forget about spelling, punctuation and grammar, not even for a first draft.<br /><br />I also like writing over a longer period because that gives my story and my characters the time to grow, evolve and crystallise into coherent personalities.<br /><br />I also like having the luxury of not writing for a few weeks when my subconscious mind is chewing on something.K.C. Woolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04047055661710059161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-88049522350083418312011-10-23T08:33:08.336-07:002011-10-23T08:33:08.336-07:00I'm going to try it - although I'm not sur...I'm going to try it - although I'm not sure I can turn off my internal editor, as I can agonise over a few sentences for hours!Paula Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10040623635956769807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-87408683847562227382011-10-23T05:17:22.549-07:002011-10-23T05:17:22.549-07:00Hello Rachel- thanks a lot for that positive comme...Hello Rachel- thanks a lot for that positive comment. I'm definitely more convinced I'd like to try now!Rosemary Gemmellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311840205603508422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-64347957326751283262011-10-22T09:37:00.204-07:002011-10-22T09:37:00.204-07:00I've done NaNo four times, successfully, and I...I've done NaNo four times, successfully, and I definitely recommend it. It's a great way to force yourself to focus, and the community is wonderful.Rachel Cotterillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08969719330048416996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-85611623754271208432011-10-22T07:03:48.589-07:002011-10-22T07:03:48.589-07:00Hi Anita - thank you so much for that positive spi...Hi Anita - thank you so much for that positive spin on it! Knowing my nature, I reckon I probably need something like this to keep me focused.<br /><br />Hello Joan - you're absolutely right, of course. I'm more and more convinced by the hour!Rosemary Gemmellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311840205603508422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-21125564548855692662011-10-22T06:10:16.802-07:002011-10-22T06:10:16.802-07:00I think this is one of those 'horses for cours...I think this is one of those 'horses for courses' dilemmas. It really depends on so many factors: why you write, how you write ... in fact probably all the 'w' questions. If it works for you (and 'write here, write now' did for me), then go for it. And you're allowed to jump off if you choose. I may even do it myself!Joan Fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09629276914643471249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-69571589868486654372011-10-22T00:58:51.089-07:002011-10-22T00:58:51.089-07:00I too wrestled with whether or not to try this, bu...I too wrestled with whether or not to try this, but I took the plunge and instead of losing momentum as I imagined I would, having a target of 1,650 words a day actually kept me focused. You have no time to re-read, edit, tweak or even change your mind about where the story is going and at the end I had the bones of a novel. It needed reworking, polishing, editing and expanding, but the book was published by Muse in September. Go for it!Anita Davisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13068890701803582595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-21046136940903461642011-10-22T00:12:10.692-07:002011-10-22T00:12:10.692-07:00Hello Gilly - Glad you're having the same deba...Hello Gilly - Glad you're having the same debate! I've got as far as writing down all the other things I have to consider during November while I decide!Rosemary Gemmellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311840205603508422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-69994885952919093742011-10-22T00:10:38.413-07:002011-10-22T00:10:38.413-07:00Hi Patsy - again, that's a helpful comment, th...Hi Patsy - again, that's a helpful comment, thank you. It's obviously all about setting aside some dedicated writing time, no matter if we make a particular target.Rosemary Gemmellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311840205603508422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-13731873177202544192011-10-21T08:56:36.640-07:002011-10-21T08:56:36.640-07:00I'm going through exactly the same internal de...I'm going through exactly the same internal debate myself. I am drawn to the idea of having to write every day, especially as I've had a story idea bugging away at my brain for at least two years and this might be the ideal way to let it out.<br />On the other hand however - I know perfectly well that I've got waaay too many other things to do during November and I can't even begin to imagine how I'll fit all of them in - far less stick in an extra fifteen hundred words or so every single day. <br />Let us know what you decide Ros!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-7815943463268483332011-10-21T07:58:19.307-07:002011-10-21T07:58:19.307-07:00I enjoy attempting NaNo. I'm not too bothered ...I enjoy attempting NaNo. I'm not too bothered about completing all 50,000 - I just write as much as I can during the month.Patsyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12263765378083045973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-51991464353905988372011-10-21T06:24:42.502-07:002011-10-21T06:24:42.502-07:00Hi Anne - actually that was a helpful comment as i...Hi Anne - actually that was a helpful comment as it reminds me we are allowed to fail getting to the 50,000 target! But I can imagine it's terrible pressure.<br /><br />Frances - glad you can see both sides too! It's very helpful having these comments as it's making me seriously think about it from all angles.Rosemary Gemmellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311840205603508422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-51003121167005445862011-10-21T06:16:04.441-07:002011-10-21T06:16:04.441-07:00I can see all sides of the argument. It would be g...I can see all sides of the argument. It would be great to just write write write, and have at least the bare bones of a novel at the end. It seems to me to be the ultimate answer to Not Getting Dwon To It (which is what I'm doing now). But, oh, the pressure! I don't think I could cope with that at all. and lIke Joanna, I have an internal editor, and s/he would almost certainly veto it!Frances Garroodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10614916006798375706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-54582864107441199572011-10-21T05:35:00.954-07:002011-10-21T05:35:00.954-07:00I've tried NaNo twice and failed both times. ...I've tried NaNo twice and failed both times. It's the pressure to get to the end result that I find daunting. I do much better without it.<br /><br />And I agree with Bill. A great editor is a godsend!Anne Gallagherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05816355522284492131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-30930237261449096152011-10-21T05:21:48.733-07:002011-10-21T05:21:48.733-07:00Hi Bill - thanks for that considered reply. I thin...Hi Bill - thanks for that considered reply. I think you've highlighted a very important point about the different approaches to writing. I do agree with you about the artificiallity of the 50,000 in one month. However... I wish I could apply myself to writing in the way you suggest, by taking time to enjoy shaping phrases, rhythms etc. It's not that I don't enjoy that, of course, it's more to do with lack of self-discipline in concentrating on one particular piece of work until finished (remember my butterfly post). And in allowing mysefl to be distracted by too much online activity!<br /><br />The draw of this challenge, this year anyway, is to feel under pressure to produce the words I need, so I completely focus on it (around other necessities) - but then to have the pleasure of redrafting and producing something worthwhile from that. Am I convincing myself here? Still not sure!Rosemary Gemmellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311840205603508422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-19989968592580109272011-10-21T05:12:48.255-07:002011-10-21T05:12:48.255-07:00Thanks for your prodding, Vikki - you know me so w...Thanks for your prodding, Vikki - you know me so well!<br /><br />Hi Joanna - thanks for that very interesting reply. I can imagine if someone can't switch off their internal editor long enough, then it will be more difficult to get the words down. I haven't tried doing this before so not sure if I could. And the pressure of the word count might get to me... yet it might be what I need to progress! You'll soon find out if I take the challenge.Rosemary Gemmellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311840205603508422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-66769728673035655042011-10-21T04:34:54.997-07:002011-10-21T04:34:54.997-07:00I agree about editors, Rosemary. When you get a go...I agree about editors, Rosemary. When you get a good one, he/she teaches you an awful lot. My first ever editor made brilliant suggestions which definitely improved my books and the American one I had for The Figurehead was amazingly conscientious and saved me from some embarrassing errors.<br /><br />As for NaNoWriteMo, I know lots of people sign up for it and most seem to think it was worth it, even if only for feeling obliged to keep on churning out the words, but I don't really understand it. It seems an artificial way of writing to me. If you have something to say and you're enjoying saying it, that's the essence of the job. Chaining yourself to a computer and hitting word counts rather than taking time to shape your phrases and rhythms is a different activity. But I'm an old fogey.Bill Kirtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07675643113010061969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-13613699984233857542011-10-21T03:25:57.845-07:002011-10-21T03:25:57.845-07:00What an interesting post, Rosemary. I do think NaN...What an interesting post, Rosemary. I do think NaNoWriMo is a good idea and works well for lots of writers, but not for me. I'm a wimp. I feel too pressurised by the word count. <br /><br />I don't usually check my word count until a story is finished. Sometimes I'm surprised by how much I've written and sometimes I discover the story is complete after only 900 or so words (although short shorts are rare). As soon as I'm given a word count to aim for, my writing goes to pot. It feels like a millstone round my neck. And I don't know if I could shake it off for NaNoWriMo, despite the fact that I'd love to try it and envy writers who do!<br /><br />I can't switch off my internal editor. I'm a pantster with plot, preferring it to grow from the characters as they develop, yet I stop to correct and improve grammar, punctuation, paragraph breaks etc all the time. I can't leave it alone. I always want the first draft to emerge as near to perfection as possible, even if just in terms of presentation.<br /><br />When I went to a Meg Rossoff talk, she mentioned the importance of the active verb and, ever since, during editing, I have deleted virtually every use of the passive that has slipped in.Joannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346863303904973315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-29049981535461824352011-10-21T02:56:53.661-07:002011-10-21T02:56:53.661-07:00I just read that back and it appears my brain wasn...I just read that back and it appears my brain wasn't engaging as fast as I was typing - that should have read 'it will be a good way for you to stay focused'!Vikkihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08039838691449950827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5278356786329973174.post-62588248468411203442011-10-21T02:55:40.959-07:002011-10-21T02:55:40.959-07:00I think you should go for it as I think it will be...I think you should go for it as I think it will be a good way for to be stay focused on the one piece!Vikkihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08039838691449950827noreply@blogger.com